Which Sabbath Do You Intend To Join?

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I prefer independence…also Malkavian was my favorite clan.

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Freedom of choice is what I desire the most. In other words, I would like to be independent, however I don’t mind co-working with Sabbaths or others Independent Kindred from time to time. In this world having a small group of trustworthy people seems to be crucial component of survival.

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Definitely independent.

I’m a Brujah at heart, always will be, an anarchist vampire forever.

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As what mortal would probably call ” Malkavian ” since centuries now, I would probably join the Aristocracy of Domini but again, it lacks maybe a bit of weird crazyness…well…I could bring that in !

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Hort Pack, now and forever.

“Finally there is nothing here for death to take away.” ― Charles Bukowski, What Matters Most is How Well You Walk Through the Fire

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Me and my guitar wish to remain independent.

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Domini would be my choice, I think. 

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Probably the CRUOR Corp. If not then I’ll stay independent, after I’ve been human for a while.

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Orthodox all the way, although my character will not be deeply religious he will know that religion is the easiest way to manipulate the masses and even though your enemies know your doing it if they speak out, they have slandered a holy man, the church, and the maker himself. Go my children we cannot allow such heresy to continue, bring him final death that he may find peace in the makers arms…(evil grin) 

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As much as I’m tempted to go Independent for the freedom to choose and switch sides, I think that’s what makes Independent’s innately untrustworthy.  Pick a traditional faction and other Kindred at least have some idea about your motivations and who they’re dealing with – and if you deal unjustly with them it reflects on your Sabbath as well as giving the wounded party a tangiable organisation to complain to.

And besides, one of the great things about picking a Sabbath is the opportunity to play a part in establishing it’s traditions.  For instance, can you imagine the sort of interview process Cruor players will come up with to vet perspective candidates for their small and exclusive organisation?  (Grin)

So I’m thinking Domini or Theocracy then, since I’ve played Vamps somewhat similar to Cruor and Hort in other games.  I’ll wait to see what perks the designers add to the different factions before making a final decision though…

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I am reading leaning toward CRUOR corps. However I will wait for more details on buffs and checks and balances of the sabbaths before making my final decision. 

 

I don’t see any motivation or reason to be an independent. It

 would make you untrustworthy inherently. Also wouldn’t you be weaker without the support of a sabbath. 

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

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Definitely The Orthodox Theocracy 

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Gavriil wrote:

Definitely The Orthodox Theocracy

. Why ? I just wanna know.

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

"

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Viktorius wrote:

Hort Pack, now and forever.

. I wish I could get the elder badge or whatever the highest badge is tbh.

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

"

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BlackBaron wrote:

Domini would be my choice, I think.

ooooh prince badge. I WANT IT !

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

"

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I’ll probably go for The Aristocracy of Domini, it reminds me of Toreadors the most and it was my fav clan in VtM ♡

"In the land of gods and monsters I was an angel, living in the garden of Evil..."

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Either Domini or Theocracy. They both appeal to me, so I’m unsure which one I’ll ultimately pick. I really like the modern and religious+gothic theme.

Maybe I’ll be an independent vamp, but then I’ll miss out on social interactions, so that’s kinda pointless. 

"The beast is here and it is within all of us."

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My two favorite clans in VtM : Bloodlines were Tremere and Gangrel, so now I’m torn between the Hort Packs and the CRUOR Corp.  I don’t know which I’ll choose.  But then I could make a second character and have each join a different Sabbath.

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I’m also a Toreador fan from VtM, so most likely my first alt will be Aristocracy of Domini.  But – also an alt-i-holic – so will likely branch out.

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I am a single character, I am thinking of a Samurai Otaku that talks only in the Enigma Cipher.  

But @AiryKai will there be independent only social interactions or certain interactions will be closed if you are a member of another Sabbath but open if you are an independent or a member of that Sabbath? Will independents have any RP or special perks that encourage independence?  

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Einherjar wrote:

I am a single character, I am thinking of a Samurai Otaku that talks only in the Enigma Cipher. But @AiryKai will there be independent only social interactions or certain interactions will be closed if you are a member of another Sabbath but open if you are an independent or a member of that Sabbath? Will independents have any RP or special perks that encourage independence?

. I can’t fully answer your question; However I think that being independent you won’t have to abide by as many rules and regulations of the Sabbaths. There will probably be some pros of being in a sabbath, but also some cons that could be avoided if you choose to be independent .

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

"

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At first I have chosen to be independent, but now after reading some lore (which is brilliantly made imo) I think seriously about Domini. Especially it reminds me Toreador from Vampire Masquerade I preferred the most.

However I just realized that it all may change with new informations about rest Sabbaths, I have hight hopes about Orthodox Theocracy.

How I see it:
The Aristocracy of Domini – Toreador, Ventrue
The Cruor Corp – reminds me Camarilla in general but Tremere in particular.
The Orthodox Theocracy – seems to be something like Lancea Sanctum or Ordo Dracul than any particular clan.
The Hort Packs – Nosferatu/Gangrel with some features of good old Sabbat.

I like it, It looks like you choose most interesting clans and convenants from VM and VR in order to make new quality and it worked quite good. However I think it may be good idea to made some factions (Domini – art oriented, business oriented groups etc.) which works more with personal preferences and needs.

I also hope that different groups will receive different bonuses which will explain why exactly it’s worth to sacrifice freedom and join any of these groups.

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J. Caulfield wrote:

At first I have chosen to be independent, but now after reading some lore (which is brilliantly made imo) I think seriously about Domini. Especially it reminds me Toreador from Vampire Masquerade I preferred the most. However I just realized that it all may change with new informations about rest Sabbaths, I have hight hopes about Orthodox Theocracy. How I see it: The Aristocracy of Domini – Toreador, Ventrue The Cruor Corp – reminds me Camarilla in general but Tremere in particular. The Orthodox Theocracy – seems to be something like Lancea Sanctum or Ordo Dracul than any particular clan. The Hort Packs – Nosferatu/Gangrel with some features of good old Sabbat. I like it, It looks like you choose most interesting clans and convenants from VM and VR in order to make new quality and it worked quite good. However I think it may be good idea to made some factions (Domini – art oriented, business oriented groups etc.) which works more with personal preferences and needs. I also hope that different groups will receive different bonuses which will explain why exactly it’s worth to sacrifice freedom and join any of these groups.

Good analysis, I feel like The Cruor corps are a mix of tremere and venture. Personally they are my favorite clans. However I can’t decide between the Domini and CRUOR. One has the power and money and corporations the other has the executive (prince) power. I want both. I’m still weighing the pros and cons of both but I’m leaning more toward the Cruor corps. 

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

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Features of typical Ventrue can be found in any larger organisation or group. Especially when we think about Vampires and their supernatural longevity.  It is normal that such talents and characteristics will appear sooner or later even among Brujah, Gangrels or in this case among Hort Packs members. It is just basic requirement of survival.

“The society of CRUOR is filled with cold rationality, practicality and cynicism“
“Those who are unable or unwilling to participate in the corporation’s business lose their membership, all privileges and, under certain conditions, risk Final Death, – CRUOR meticulously guards its secrets and their divulgence can harm not just the economy, but the safety of the corporation as well.“

Those quotes sounds for me much more Tremere than any other clan. It’s the only clan which does not allow members to leave organisation and keep theirs secrets by any means necessary (e. q. annihilating antitribu).

“Despite the Corporation having one of the most powerful positions in the Society of immortals, their numbers are relatively small and the power of the CRUOR lies in the ever-going research of blood magic“

This part only prove it.
I must admit Ventrue are both practical and cynical however they are more… human-like vampires. Quite similar to Toreadors who also possess great deal of power and wealth – many times I was wondering why it’s not one clan. I think just diversity required it, many people like “civilized” and “social” clans like Ventrue and Toreadors, however not everybody likes politics and “high-class stuff’.

What’s I trying to say – I see The CRUOR Corp much closer to tight sect or cult (which is Tremere style) than open groups of interest pursuing similar goals which well describe Ventrue machinations. Not to mention that Domini is public face of Vampire society, – both brain and soul. Which itself was typical for both Ventrue and Toreadors. While Cruor Corp is rather small, hidden and based on their knowledge and research.

However it’s just my opinion : )

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J. Caulfield wrote:

Features of typical Ventrue can be found in any larger organisation or group. Especially when we think about Vampires and their supernatural longevity. It is normal that such talents and characteristics will appear sooner or later even among Brujah, Gangrels or in this case among Hort Packs members. It is just basic requirement of survival. “The society of CRUOR is filled with cold rationality, practicality and cynicism“ “Those who are unable or unwilling to participate in the corporation’s business lose their membership, all privileges and, under certain conditions, risk Final Death, – CRUOR meticulously guards its secrets and their divulgence can harm not just the economy, but the safety of the corporation as well.“ Those quotes sounds for me much more Tremere than any other clan. It’s the only clan which does not allow members to leave organisation and keep theirs secrets by any means necessary (e. q. annihilating antitribu). “Despite the Corporation having one of the most powerful positions in the Society of immortals, their numbers are relatively small and the power of the CRUOR lies in the ever-going research of blood magic“ This part only prove it. I must admit Ventrue are both practical and cynical however they are more… human-like vampires. Quite similar to Toreadors who also possess great deal of power and wealth – many times I was wondering why it’s not one clan. I think just diversity required it, many people like “civilized” and “social” clans like Ventrue and Toreadors, however not everybody likes politics and “high-class stuff’. What’s I trying to say – I see The CRUOR Corp much closer to tight sect or cult (which is Tremere style) than open groups of interest pursuing similar goals which well describe Ventrue machinations. Not to mention that Domini is public face of Vampire society, – both brain and soul. Which itself was typical for both Ventrue and Toreadors. While Cruor Corp is rather small, hidden and based on their knowledge and research. However it’s just my opinion : )

.   Amazing analysis!!  You have only reinforced my decision to join the Cruor corps. I want to become one of the highest members in that sabbath if I can. I shall rule in my mansion in the shadows, even though there will be wanted posters of me everywhere lol. 

"The moon is my sun,
the night is my day,
Blood is my life,
and you are my prey."

"Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are born to endless night"

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