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    That’s not how the Traditions work though and that’s just not really VtM. The Prince is in charge of that. If clan leaders are in charge instead it could get way out of hand and it also takes away a bit of power the Prince is supposed to have.

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    I know it’s not. That’s why I said the we started out with the prince holding that power. When you have around a hundred hardcore rp’ers really putting effort into their storylines, and their talented in combat… the princes position will be a revolving door. I cycled in and out of the position three times. I was very good at written combat but so were plenty of others. When the princes position get in the way of your plots temporary alliances are made and the prince is out the door. I was clan leader for the Giovanni. We had strick regulations. You broke the rules I killed your character, period. One person in charge of the embrace hinders creativity which makes for shitty action. If a clan leader was irresponsible the other clan leaders and I conspired and killed him/her. It’s really not a big problem so long as those in power actually take the roles seriously so everyone can have fun. If they don’t? Kill em. Ta-da, problem solved. It starts clans war, and chaos… so much fun.   

    She wears the guise of a woman, but I never thought of her as one, or even as a vampire, for that matter. She is Queen and castle both; Her dominion - the river Styx, the untold dead she's drowned in it - Her subjects

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    Our games had revolving Princes from time to time. That NEVER was a problem with approving Embraces.

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    Sounds like your Princes were frankly, weak, stupid and unable to deal with the position. Prince isn’t just some shiny title to take to get a few more traits to bid…/facepalm. Its a lot of responsibilities for said PC. That said a lot of players play Princes WRONG. You CANNOT just walk up to the Prince as a newly embraced vampire! NO! You have to go through the Seneschal or at least your Primogen or have your Sire introduce you.

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    I am not talking about RP being fair, in that regard I 100% agree with what people are saying. All I am saying is that, from a REAL WORLD PERSPECTIVE, the game has to have some sort of balance otherwise alot of people will not get the enjoyment they want and will stop playing/paying which will force the game to end. 

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    More like force it to go F2P cash shop which I think it will be anyway. I’ve been wondering how they will make money already.

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    No, it had nothing to do with wimpy princes. We were active role players. We liked conflict and generally starting trouble amongst the clans. Peace is always boring in rp, at least it was to us. I actually like I still have some of the rp’s saved.. maybe. I’ll look for them. The traditional VtM rp rooms that I visited and played in were really calm. No one really caused much trouble, the rp’s tended to be generalized everyday life rping. Most people did ripple the pond. It was the VtM FF rooms the had the constant action and typically the strongest combatants. I’m not sure what type of rp your use too. Was it table top, room based, or message board?   Also we should remember that while this is based off of WW’s VtM that’s not what this is. It’s new. That means there is no such thing as tradition as of right now.

     

    On a side not, I’m curious how allowing barons and prince’s control business tax will work out. This open up a whole new can of worms.

    She wears the guise of a woman, but I never thought of her as one, or even as a vampire, for that matter. She is Queen and castle both; Her dominion - the river Styx, the untold dead she's drowned in it - Her subjects

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    That’s not how the Traditions work though and that’s just not really VtM. The Prince is in charge of that. If clan leaders are in charge instead it could get way out of hand and it also takes away a bit of power the Prince is supposed to have.

     

    This isn’t V:tM.

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    No, just based on it.

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    No, just based on it.

    To me, “based off of” something means it’s an extension of said thing. Ours is “inspired by” more or less.

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    I do wonder how you’ll work the embraces out then! Looking forward too it Though by my previous comment I made on this thread I do think the embrace should be something special to each player since it’s the start of their journey if they are going down the vampire route, I look forward to what happens!

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    OniDynamo is taking everything way too seriously. This isn’t VtM, period. Not everything revolves around you and what you want to do, this is an MMO and like it or not it is a game based on vampires. Whether or not they add in other supernatural templates later isn’t relevant. The people like myself that paid money to play want to play as a vampire and have just as much, if not more, right to do so. I loved role playing in table top games, but this is just a different animal. You can pretend like you’re the only one who deserves to be a vampire all you like, but that option will likely be open to all players, and it should be.

    PvP will also likely be consensual in that you have to request a duel like in other games. This means you can’t harass players for ‘not deserving’ the embrace. Even if you could you would just end up getting banned for griefing.

    This game looks awesome and we all have a lot to learn about it and its FICTIONAL world. Everyone should lighten up and just enjoy a massive multiplayer experience or go back to playing table top games or Bloodlines where you can be in charge all you want.

    The blood is the life.

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    That gave me a boner.

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    OniDynamo is taking everything way too seriously. This isn’t VtM, period. Not everything revolves around you and what you want to do, this is an MMO and like it or not it is a game based on vampires. Whether or not they add in other supernatural templates later isn’t relevant. The people like myself that paid money to play want to play as a vampire and have just as much, if not more, right to do so. I loved role playing in table top games, but this is just a different animal. You can pretend like you’re the only one who deserves to be a vampire all you like, but that option will likely be open to all players, and it should be. PvP will also likely be consensual in that you have to request a duel like in other games. This means you can’t harass players for ‘not deserving’ the embrace. Even if you could you would just end up getting banned for griefing. This game looks awesome and we all have a lot to learn about it and its FICTIONAL world. Everyone should lighten up and just enjoy a massive multiplayer experience or go back to playing table top games or Bloodlines where you can be in charge all you want.

    Hi James!How is going man?
    I’m here just to tell you your ideas of pvp in Dogma are Wrong, there will be secure places, but on the free pvp areas you dont have anything like duels or consentiment…maybe police npc  and the dogma himself to avoid some kinds of behavior, but there is nothing to restrain people to fight each other, if they are willing to face the consequences.

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    Hello… humm… so in end, does it mean that i cant start as a vampire or any of the other future choices besides humans? people never heard of “out of town vampires” ?

    Besides, dont forget, a city is suposed to have hundreds/thousands.

    How about putting a loyalty system between maker & the one embraced? Sorta like they did on True Blood, maybe that would at least make sure the new ones wouldnt go on a human killing spree unless they were given permission by their elders.

    Let the makers decide for how long that a human should be a ghoul before getting turned.

    While i do agree with some authority, it shouldnt be in the hands of 1 person, like, i bet most here the first time they played vampire the masquerade wanted to kill that prince on first sight & the only reason you did not so was because you wanted a new apartment?

    I mean… if i wanna kill, i kill, if i wanna feed, i eat, if  i want children, let me have them, if you got a problem or get shocked about it, gess what, im evil, youre evil, everyones evil, greedy, bloodthirsty either for blood or something else.

    How to stop it? police, hunters, slayers, werewolf packs, vampire covens, enemy families should be able to deal with it, not the 1 person 90% of the population wants dead.

     

    Also some have seem to have missed the

    “In this world, you can permanently lose your character, which means that you should always be on your guard.”

     

     

     

     

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    In the new world of darkness there was a restriction. To create the descendant, it was necessary to spend 1 point of constant will power. Here too it is possible to enter a similar resource. The second limiter, this announcement of bloody hunting, therefore, can finally kill you. If it becomes clear that you have created the vampire without the permission of the prince.

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